Comments on: ‘Dirty Girl’ Theme 1.0 Released

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By: Kerry

Kerry — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:38:13 +0000

@Clifton Evans - I understand your thoughts completely. That is why I created ‘Dirty Girl’. INSPIRATION. Because of perception ‘Dirty Girl’ is retired. But not to fear, she will return. Stay tuned to the demo site - dirtygirl.kerrywebster.com. Once it is complete I will post the new theme for everyones consumption.

By: Clifton Evans

Clifton Evans — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:04:01 +0000

Now, this is fairly rediculous.

First of all, Khoi is pretty well known for his ‘excellent design’, which is meant to influence others, no?

Secondly, he is a major proponent of the grid design, and likely has made a pretty good career and dollar off of being a leader in that school of design. But, he hasn’t anything up on the web to showcase exactly what is so good about it, and how he does it, other than a ppt, and a few jpgs of a yahoo rip off. So, shouldn’t his site’s design be seen as that defacto grid design site we’re all looking for, as it is for some people? And, as a result, shouldn’t it be replicated? I don’t see the need for limiting the potential of a good design, especially since a lot of bloggers could improve upon it.

Perhaps that’s the real issue here. There might be improvements to the design of the ‘grid master’. This sort of inability to see the benefits of open source and standardization goes completely against the theory of the grid design, and developing frameworks in general. You would have to be completely insane to think that we need a billion grid frameworks to figure out what works. We need to use what works, and make it better, not reinvent the wheel everyday of our lives.

Khoi, if you’re reading this, give us something to chew on, where’s the beef?

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By: Kerry Webster

Kerry Webster — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:27:50 +0000

@Dan (AUG 26) - Again it is perception. As much as I see and know the differences (subtraction has a much better feel & feature set as a theme than ‘DIRTY GIRL’) the perception by many is it was a copy. ‘DIRTY GIRL’ will return just with a new coat of paint and a different ‘feel’ than before.

By: Kerry Webster

Kerry Webster — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:23:53 +0000

@Adam - I agree. I purchased ‘News’ theme several months ago ($70). I was finding my content would sometimes break the theme. I also found in the Quo forums owners of the theme with the same issues. This was again about the time I discovered the Blueprint css framework. I converted my version of the theme to this framework and that was that. I felt the derivative work was under the sames license as the paid version. I still credit Quo in my footer.

By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:32:58 +0000

Inspiration and trying to replicate one’s design is often considered a good way to learn and practice. It is a valid way of learning new techniques. However, releasing your “inspired” work to the public is crossing that fine line with many others.

Such as, this current site’s template is a fairly modified version of Quommunication’s WP Template “News” - http://www.quommunication.com/news/

If Kerry were to release this site’s current template as if Kerry made it, I would consider it wrong.

That’s my $0.02.

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By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:18:51 +0000

I don’t quite understand… too much time on my hands that I wound up reading smashing magazine and saw this… indeed.

Anyway, I never implied that this was an intentional copy of subtraction, clearly seeing the navigation elsewhere has confused kerry, since it makes it seem like the design is perhaps open, but f8 obviously copied it originally.

Obviously Khoi’s grid is a great place to start, and I think that if you added in your own navigation, you could make this a very good theme.

Intentional or not, this is still a good lesson in why you should be very vigilante when using various design resources you find on the internet. Always make sure you are allowed to use something. I usually e-mail artists/designers even if their works says that it is creative commons, because most people don’t know which version they are using or why, and getting permission from them in a formal e-mail covers you in cases such as this.

Hindsight is 20/20, but if you had e-mailed the author of f8 and asked to use that work, then you would have completely avoided this problem.